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	<title>Comments on: Again With the Color Standards for Azawakh</title>
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		<title>By: Brian Reiter</title>
		<link>http://sahelhound.com/2008/12/01/again-with-the-color-standards-for-azawakh/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Reiter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you are looking for this comment:

http://sahelhound.com/2008/11/26/more-azawakh-color-genetics/#comment-69

Which, BTW, is the same as the &quot;Straightforward Standard&quot; I proposed in this post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are looking for this comment:</p>
<p><a href="http://sahelhound.com/2008/11/26/more-azawakh-color-genetics/#comment-69" rel="nofollow">http://sahelhound.com/2008/11/26/more-azawakh-color-genetics/#comment-69</a></p>
<p>Which, BTW, is the same as the &#8220;Straightforward Standard&#8221; I proposed in this post.</p>
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		<title>By: akilah</title>
		<link>http://sahelhound.com/2008/12/01/again-with-the-color-standards-for-azawakh/#comment-78</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian Says: What did I delete?

This is what I couldn&#039;t find, that you wrote:
Re-Rewrite Redux
Color: Any combination of colors is acceptable.

Plenty descriptive enough for me.

KISS regards,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian Says: What did I delete?</p>
<p>This is what I couldn&#8217;t find, that you wrote:<br />
Re-Rewrite Redux<br />
Color: Any combination of colors is acceptable.</p>
<p>Plenty descriptive enough for me.</p>
<p>KISS regards,</p>
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		<title>By: akilah</title>
		<link>http://sahelhound.com/2008/12/01/again-with-the-color-standards-for-azawakh/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[akilah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian Says:
&lt;&gt;

I couldn&#039;t find it, but you wrote:

&lt;&gt;

That&#039;s long enough a color description for me!
KISS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian Says:<br />
&lt;&gt;</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t find it, but you wrote:</p>
<p>&lt;&gt;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s long enough a color description for me!<br />
KISS</p>
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		<title>By: akilah</title>
		<link>http://sahelhound.com/2008/12/01/again-with-the-color-standards-for-azawakh/#comment-76</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The bigger question is:  why bother to chase AKC and be part of that dying commercial enterprise following the wake of IBM, read this:

http://tinyurl.com/5st2q7

Retournez aux moutons: Below are excerpts from UKC&#039;s Color and DQ paragraphs.  The DQs are generic, found in almost all breeds, except for the eye color and coat length references.  It covers albinism in a very straightforward manner, and eliminates the need to mention eye rim color, nose color, etc. The absence of &quot;some&quot; pigment in eye rims and nose is not albinism.  Phenotypes expressing more white will sometimes also present random lack of pigmentation on eye rims and/or nose, and that should not be grounds for a DQ, IMO.

Albinism is actually a genetic defect, an inability to synthesize melanin.  It is an autosomal recessive trait and is rare unless some breeder comes along and decides to select breedings based primarily on white, or some such other superficial criteria (unfortunately it happens all too often, witness the German Shepherd breed and kennels &quot;specializing in [undesirable] white GSDs).

UKC Azawakh standard as revised 5/1/2008:

COLOR

      The Azawakh comes in varying colors, to include cream to dark red, white, chocolate, brindle, black, grizzle, and parti-color. White markings and dark facial masks are allowed. 

DISQUALIFICATIONS

      Unilateral or bilateral cryptorchid. Viciousness or extreme shyness. Overshot or undershot bite. Yellow (bird of prey) eyes. Albinism. Harsh or long coat. Over or under the prescribed height by more than one inch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bigger question is:  why bother to chase AKC and be part of that dying commercial enterprise following the wake of IBM, read this:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/5st2q7" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5st2q7</a></p>
<p>Retournez aux moutons: Below are excerpts from UKC&#8217;s Color and DQ paragraphs.  The DQs are generic, found in almost all breeds, except for the eye color and coat length references.  It covers albinism in a very straightforward manner, and eliminates the need to mention eye rim color, nose color, etc. The absence of &#8220;some&#8221; pigment in eye rims and nose is not albinism.  Phenotypes expressing more white will sometimes also present random lack of pigmentation on eye rims and/or nose, and that should not be grounds for a DQ, IMO.</p>
<p>Albinism is actually a genetic defect, an inability to synthesize melanin.  It is an autosomal recessive trait and is rare unless some breeder comes along and decides to select breedings based primarily on white, or some such other superficial criteria (unfortunately it happens all too often, witness the German Shepherd breed and kennels &#8220;specializing in [undesirable] white GSDs).</p>
<p>UKC Azawakh standard as revised 5/1/2008:</p>
<p>COLOR</p>
<p>      The Azawakh comes in varying colors, to include cream to dark red, white, chocolate, brindle, black, grizzle, and parti-color. White markings and dark facial masks are allowed. </p>
<p>DISQUALIFICATIONS</p>
<p>      Unilateral or bilateral cryptorchid. Viciousness or extreme shyness. Overshot or undershot bite. Yellow (bird of prey) eyes. Albinism. Harsh or long coat. Over or under the prescribed height by more than one inch.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Reiter</title>
		<link>http://sahelhound.com/2008/12/01/again-with-the-color-standards-for-azawakh/#comment-75</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are solid white Azawakh in the Sahel. I&#039;ve seen a few examples. 

I have a picture of one bred by Ayad ag Intangoum, called Boum. Boum looks to me like he actually has the Platinum (Ivory) allele of the C locus, c(P). That allele causes extreme dilution of red phaemlelanin pigment. He isn&#039;t an albino. 

I guess I don&#039;t know how likely albinism is to develop. Is it a real problem to be worth the complexity of including in a standard? How do people differentiate white from albino? Do you just put in Albino as an eliminating fault or do you put in all the symptoms of albinism?

I&#039;d also note that there are requirements elswhere in the standard for a black or brown nose and pigmented eyelids. Those requirements may effectively eliminate albino animals which would have white nose and eyelids since their bodies cannot produce any pigments.

What did I delete?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are solid white Azawakh in the Sahel. I&#8217;ve seen a few examples. </p>
<p>I have a picture of one bred by Ayad ag Intangoum, called Boum. Boum looks to me like he actually has the Platinum (Ivory) allele of the C locus, c(P). That allele causes extreme dilution of red phaemlelanin pigment. He isn&#8217;t an albino. </p>
<p>I guess I don&#8217;t know how likely albinism is to develop. Is it a real problem to be worth the complexity of including in a standard? How do people differentiate white from albino? Do you just put in Albino as an eliminating fault or do you put in all the symptoms of albinism?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also note that there are requirements elswhere in the standard for a black or brown nose and pigmented eyelids. Those requirements may effectively eliminate albino animals which would have white nose and eyelids since their bodies cannot produce any pigments.</p>
<p>What did I delete?</p>
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		<title>By: akilah</title>
		<link>http://sahelhound.com/2008/12/01/again-with-the-color-standards-for-azawakh/#comment-74</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The treatment of white is very tricky.  The draft as you proposed suggests solid white is going permitted? Albinism can become a problem. But then, white on the muzzle - as described the proposed language excludes white on the muzzle?  Why even bother to mention mask or no mask?

Your previous suggestion (which you have since deleted), simply, that the color standard includes all colors, is less self contradictory and presents the open criteria for colors that is more consistent with the existing conditions of the aidi in the Sahel.  There should be a disqualification for albinism, which carries other genetic defects with it (visual impairment for example).

Always ready to bite controversy in the butt regards,]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The treatment of white is very tricky.  The draft as you proposed suggests solid white is going permitted? Albinism can become a problem. But then, white on the muzzle &#8211; as described the proposed language excludes white on the muzzle?  Why even bother to mention mask or no mask?</p>
<p>Your previous suggestion (which you have since deleted), simply, that the color standard includes all colors, is less self contradictory and presents the open criteria for colors that is more consistent with the existing conditions of the aidi in the Sahel.  There should be a disqualification for albinism, which carries other genetic defects with it (visual impairment for example).</p>
<p>Always ready to bite controversy in the butt regards,</p>
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